Administration


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Lorna Gray
President & Founder

Lorna Gray is known for her commitment to families and entrepreneurial insight. Fluent in Mandarin, Cantonese, English, and working knowledge of Japanese, Lorna has become an expert in East Asian culture and professional ethics. Her many talents include a giftedness for navigating bicultural transition and challenges, recognizing personal values and commitment in others, as well as an acute sense of business intuitiveness. Before founding Interface, Lorna was a Vice-President of Professional Financial Services and CEO of Angel Education. Lorna graduated with an engineering degree in technology from Xiangtan University in Hunan Province. She has lived in China, New Zealand, and the US.


Patricia Finn

CEO

With over 35 years of international experience, Patricia specializes in building teams, growing revenue, and developing new markets. Prior to joining Interface, Patricia co-founded I-jedi LLC, a company dedicated to changing the world through their work in justice, equity, diversity, and inclusion, utilizing a proprietary data collection and assessment tool. As Vice President of Global Public Policy for SAS, Patricia worked with global policymakers and organizations mainly in the information technology sector. Previously, Patricia lived and worked six years in Asia, as Dukane Corporation’s Regional Manager, Asia Pacific, where she was responsible for building and supporting manufacturing partnerships, as well as distribution networks. Patricia has also worked as a speechwriter, policy analysts, and English teacher at the Anglo-American School in Moscow.

Patricia has held leadership positions with the American Chamber of Commerce to the European Union, the American Chamber of Commerce in Taipei, Taiwan, the Business and Advisory Committee to the OECD in Paris, and served as SAS corporate liaison to the World Economic Forum in Geneva. Patricia has also served as President of the Wingra School Board of Trustees and on the boards of The Children’s Theater of Madison and Girls Rock Camp Madison (WI). In addition to an undergraduate degree in creative writing, Patricia holds a degree in classical music history from the Stedelijke Conservatorium in Brugge, Belgium, and played (French) horn in the Artis Dulcedo Symphony Orchestra. Speaking fluent Dutch and conversational French and Mandarin, Patricia holds both US and EU citizenship and lives in Brussels.


Keith Gramling

Director of College Counseling

With over 20 years in college admissions experience at a selective liberal arts college recruiting and evaluating both international and domestic students, Keith joined Interface in 2015 to continue helping Chinese and other students find success. Building on his years of admissions experience, he enjoys working with students as they begin planning for the next stage in their growth. Keith provides extraordinary guidance and support throughout the entire process and his professional guidance leads to excellent college outcomes. Keith’s students regularly come back to say how he went over and beyond for them. He has a great sense of humor and possesses the professional experience and patience to lead Interface students through the complex college admissions process. Keith is a strong networker and is a member of many professional organizations that focus on college admissions. As the Assistant Director of College Counseling, Keith is responsible for the ongoing training and mentoring of the counseling staff and developing new programs and services to strengthen our college counseling program for our families. He also leads our annual college tour program.


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Debbie Greenberg


Director of Programming
(Jump Start Leadership and Interface Prep)

Debbie brings over 20 years of college counseling experience to Interface as a former college counselor at one of St. Louis’ leading private high schools. She also developed a college counseling curriculum and program for a nationally recognized college access program. Debbie’s students love her energy and enthusiasm, knowing that she genuinely cares about their well-being and success. She was recently selected by the internationally known Colleges That Change Lives consortium as outstanding counselor of the year. Debbie received her undergraduate degree from the University of Illinois and her master’s degree from Washington University in St. Louis. Her son is attending medical school, and her daughter is a teacher in Memphis, Tennessee. When Debbie isn't working, you can probably find her at a yoga class, the gym, or gardening in her back yard.



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Rainbow Chen


Director of Customer Service

Rainbow has over a decade of experience teaching both Chinese and American students and understands the importance of customer satisfaction and the education of young people. Her extensive knowledge of cross-cultural training, account management, and organizational skills have enabled her to guide Interface students and their families through this process toward the success of the student and beyond. Rainbow’s linguistic training and experience allow her to effectively close the communication gap that is imperative during the application process, allowing the applicant and family to feel comfortable and confident throughout their child’s educational career.


Susan GorinDirector of Operations

Susan graduated from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign with a master’s in global education with a concentration on higher education and student mobility. With over a decade of experience working in admissions, advising, recruitment, and program management, Susan is dedicated to assisting high school students and families with navigating the college process and finding success. Susan was a final reviewer for domestic and international students at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, including their renowned business and engineering programs, using a holistic review process. She is passionate about helping students pursue their higher education goals and through her professional networking experience offers students an insider’s view of selective admissions.

At Interface, in addition to counseling her own small cohort of students, Susan oversees program logistics, including workshops related to college essay writing, soft skills development, and interview preparation, as well as managing the process for potential students and the graduate counseling program.


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Lei Shen


Associate Director of Customer Service

After several years working with students at Education First in China, Lei Shen came to the United States to pursue a master’s degree in Education. After completion of her studies, she worked at a private high school in Texas before joining the Interface team in 2011. Lei plays a pivotal role in training the customer service team, and her passion for education, cross cultural communications, and customer satisfaction assures the best quality service for Interface students and families.


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Susan Goodkin

Advisor-Interface Programs

Susan is a graduate of Harvard College, Harvard Law School, and Oxford University, where she was chosen as a Rhodes Scholar, one of the most prestigious scholarships in the world and awarded to a small number of college graduates.

After practicing law for many years, Susan turned to using the persuasive skills she developed through writing legal briefs and arguing cases to help students craft compelling college applications for the most selective schools.

Susan specializes in helping Interface students find creative and impressive ways to pursue their interests and passions beyond the usual high school activities, to help them stand out from other applicants. Her unique role at Interface is to team with counselors to help their students pursue unusual paths based on their interests and talents and to build an outstanding extracurricular resume necessary to get accepted to the most selective schools.

Susan oversees Interface’s additional programming, where she designs and co-designs one-of-a-kind experiences with university instructors, professional authors, scientists, and performing artists.


Beth McKenzie

College Counseling Coordinator

Beth’s education and experience living and studying in China ignited her passions for language education and world exploration. Beth has over a decade of teaching experience working with students in Canada, Taiwan, Korea, the United Kingdom, and the United States. She graduated from Middlebury with a master’s in Applied Linguistics/ESL. Upon graduation, she taught graduate-level writing and public speaking courses. Her courses focused not only on English language skills, but also introducing students to the formal and informal expectations of American higher education. She has additionally worked as a one-on-one instructor of presentation and public speaking skills for Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MOFA) diplomats and NATO affiliates.

Beth’s background in teaching extends to her student-centered counseling philosophy. For the past 4 years at Interface, Beth has utilized her language expertise to guide students to find their voices in the admission process as our interview specialist and as an instructor of college essay writing bootcamps. Beth’s other passion in counseling is supporting students and counselors to find the perfect resources to guide each individual student on their unique intellectual pathway. Beth is our resident expert on summer programs, curating our company’s own custom database of summer program opportunities. She is the expert resume advisor for the Jump Start program, developing each student’s Strategic Plan. With an extraordinary ability to pinpoint the perfect resources, Beth helps all Interface counselors guide students on the transformative journey to discover their intellectual purpose, empowering them to become competitive college applicants.


Serena Yao

Director of Personnel Administration

Serena Yao holds an MBA from Sun Yat-sen University. She had served as an engineer in the Technical Department of Guangzhou Broadcasting and Television Network Co., Ltd for years. In June 2013, Serena joined Interface and went to the US Headquarter for further study. She is currently the Director of Administration and Human Resources Department. With professional knowledge and strong work ethic, Serena's motivation is to make scientifical and rational evaluation of and plans for human resources for the company in order to enhance the employees' enthusiasm and creativity for their job. Her goal is for the whole team to help every student get into the most selective schools possible by providing the best service for them and their families.


Hope Murtaugh

Special Advisor

Assistant Director of Admission at Princeton University

Assistant Director of College Counseling at Charlotte Country Day School

Associate Member of Independent Educational Consultants Association (IECA )

Member of Southern Association of College Admissions Counselors (SACAC)

Member of Overseas Association of College Admissions Counselors (OACAC)

Graduated from Princeton University

Hope's experience includes work in all dimensions of the college admissions process. As an Assistant Director of Admission at Princeton University, she learned how selective admissions decisions are made and what makes students stand out in the global applicant pool at highly competitive universities. She was trained by Fred Hargadon, the longtime Dean of Admissions at both Princeton and Stanford Universities, and an acknowledged leader in admission philosophy and process.

Her subsequent years as the Assistant Director of College Counseling at Charlotte Country Day School gave her experience from the high school side of the college admission process, where she demonstrated expertise assisting students with essay composition for their university applications. When her family relocated to Greenville, South Carolina, Hope served as a volunteer for the college counseling office at Christ Church Episcopal School and later worked with Educational Directions of Greenville prior to living in France for two years for her husband's job with Michelin. Hope graduated from Princeton University, with a degree in English.